Betting big
There are a number of possible explanations for the sinking of a South Korean warship, all of them point to miscalculations by Kim Jong Il
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#2 Posted by
William Peterson-Smythe
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Jun 6, 2010 9:14 am CET
>>1)Communist's goal always was(and still is) to propagate its philosophy to the rest of the world.The world-at large- rejected this.
I am not aware of any situation in the last thirty years where China has promoted "international Communism". Perhaps you have been hiding in a box over this period.
2)Well,re-educate yourself(like communists would say)
China put socialist extremism to side for awhile-to resurect it when it will be in stronger position.
You clearly know very, very little about the Chinese economy. It is well and truly capitalist now - much more so than the Czech Republic.
"As I already suggested,you can start your re-education by reading the entire constitution of China."
Perhaps you read this while you were hiding in the box.
I am not aware of any situation in the last thirty years where China has promoted "international Communism". Perhaps you have been hiding in a box over this period.
2)Well,re-educate yourself(like communists would say)
China put socialist extremism to side for awhile-to resurect it when it will be in stronger position.
You clearly know very, very little about the Chinese economy. It is well and truly capitalist now - much more so than the Czech Republic.
"As I already suggested,you can start your re-education by reading the entire constitution of China."
Perhaps you read this while you were hiding in the box.
#3 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
Jun 6, 2010 1:19 am CET
There is a terrible anchor to China's "economic miracle.'
That is over 200 million people unemployed.That is over 15% of people living in poverty.
This poverty is qualitativelly different than in the West,where a poverty is calculated level under which people considered "poor"live.
It is a "real" poverty in which people struggle just to get meal from day to day-never mind biciycles,TVvsets and other material things which people living in "poverty" in the West take for granted.
This will be real problem for China in not too far future.
That is over 200 million people unemployed.That is over 15% of people living in poverty.
This poverty is qualitativelly different than in the West,where a poverty is calculated level under which people considered "poor"live.
It is a "real" poverty in which people struggle just to get meal from day to day-never mind biciycles,TVvsets and other material things which people living in "poverty" in the West take for granted.
This will be real problem for China in not too far future.
#4 Posted by
jan fleur
Jun 5, 2010 6:42 pm CET
Taiwan looks like a 'study case' for Chinese defence and other capability scenarios. Whatever has been sold or developed to Taiwan the message seems to be, 'match this and better it' in quality and quantity. The competitive market place practice should work in all areas if you have unlimited resources. How can you 'buy' an international reaction?
It seems unlikely that such a competitive nation with some liking for gambling would miss any opportunities. Why the Dai Lama and Buddhism are so objectionable may offer a negotiating tool. If peaceful living was seen to be resourceful and handsome profits could be made then maybe?coexistence of differing cultures may be the best hope.
It seems unlikely that such a competitive nation with some liking for gambling would miss any opportunities. Why the Dai Lama and Buddhism are so objectionable may offer a negotiating tool. If peaceful living was seen to be resourceful and handsome profits could be made then maybe?coexistence of differing cultures may be the best hope.
#5 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
Jun 5, 2010 5:40 pm CET
"Which is?
As far as I am aware China abandoned communism about thirty years ago. Perhaps you haven't been keeping up with things..."
1)Communist's goal always was(and still is) to propagate its philosophy to the rest of the world.The world-at large- rejected this.
2)Well,re-educate yourself(like communists would say)
China put socialist extremism to side for awhile-to resurect it when it will be in stronger position.
As I already suggested,you can start your re-education by reading the entire constitution of China.
As far as I am aware China abandoned communism about thirty years ago. Perhaps you haven't been keeping up with things..."
1)Communist's goal always was(and still is) to propagate its philosophy to the rest of the world.The world-at large- rejected this.
2)Well,re-educate yourself(like communists would say)
China put socialist extremism to side for awhile-to resurect it when it will be in stronger position.
As I already suggested,you can start your re-education by reading the entire constitution of China.
#6 Posted by
William Peterson-Smythe
Unregistered user
Jun 5, 2010 3:48 pm CET
"North Korea is proxy for China to propagate its own communist agenda"
Which is?
As far as I am aware China abandoned communism about thirty years ago. Perhaps you haven't been keeping up with things...
Which is?
As far as I am aware China abandoned communism about thirty years ago. Perhaps you haven't been keeping up with things...
#7 Posted by
jan fleur
Jun 4, 2010 6:35 pm CET
Good article asking questions of motives of a very large economic power. Resources will be a premium for China, internal human rights may offer insight into external policy of 'obtaining national goals' . Those who bemoan human rights watches should applaud them in as much abuses can be exported. Being big brother for N.Korea seems a thankless task, however; exploitation of it as a 'resource' is a certainty for a nation obsessed with national growth. The author tackles areas with questions most fear, closer USA/Russian relations have a future while the obvious remains a mystery.
#8 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
Jun 4, 2010 5:32 pm CET
North Korea is proxy for China to propagate its own communist agenda while -on the surface-it (China) helps itself with semi-capitalist economics.
Anybody who really wants to understand China needs to read its constitution in its entirety.
As long as China has a veto power in UN Security Council there will be no end to this conflict.
Meantime,China can pay lip service to peace and at the same time support North Korea's regime.
Anybody who really wants to understand China needs to read its constitution in its entirety.
As long as China has a veto power in UN Security Council there will be no end to this conflict.
Meantime,China can pay lip service to peace and at the same time support North Korea's regime.
#9 Posted by
Karel Bures
Jun 4, 2010 8:13 am CET
All dealings with North Korea from the commencement of hostilities in 1950 to this day, by principally the US and South Korea, have been undertaken from a position of weakness. During the Korean War the US was very much aware of the countless millions of Chinese soldiers available to the communist side, and looming behind them an emerging Soviet nuclear arsenal. After the armistice of 1953(there is still officially a war) came the emergence of a Chinese nuclear arsenal from 1964 onwards, to augment the Soviet presence. On and on we move through the decades to the present when North Korea allegedly has a few nuclear bombs and the Chinese grow stronger and more sophisticated with their weaponry by the day. The Soviets no longer exist and the Russians, it appears, are no longer such an important factor. Right through this whole period the behaviour of the North Koreans has been consistent. There should be nothing surprising about their torpedoing of the South Korean naval vessel and, contrary to the author's belief, no miscalculation on their part has been made. There is too much reasonableness in this article - the sort of thing I have been reading about North Korea since at least the Pueblo incident of February, 1968; in all that time nothing has really changed; in fact, if anything, the North Koreans have become worse as they have become stronger through their acquisition of nuclear bombs and long range rockets to deliver them. God help the people of North East Asia, indeed the world, as the security of the region, based for many decades on a strong US-Japanese alliance which has recently shown alarming signs of faltering, is slowly beginning to unravel.
All this talk in the article of de-escalation, holding the North Koreans accountable, constructing a feasible roadblock until both China and North Korea accept thie international responsibilities is just a waste of time. Chamberlain and Hitler. Nothing of the sort is going to happen and nothing, it seems, bar war, will change a thing. It is too late. They should have done something decades ago, maybe even have let MacArthury have his way in 1951. And the elephant in the room is, of course, Japan. Speaking as an Australian, all I can say to that is, "strewth"!
All this talk in the article of de-escalation, holding the North Koreans accountable, constructing a feasible roadblock until both China and North Korea accept thie international responsibilities is just a waste of time. Chamberlain and Hitler. Nothing of the sort is going to happen and nothing, it seems, bar war, will change a thing. It is too late. They should have done something decades ago, maybe even have let MacArthury have his way in 1951. And the elephant in the room is, of course, Japan. Speaking as an Australian, all I can say to that is, "strewth"!

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#1 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
Jun 7, 2010 3:09 pm CET
"Perhaps you read this while you were hiding in the box."
If you want to stay ignorant it is fine with me.