Growing optimism
The landslide victory of Fidesz in Hungary's elections creates excitement for the first time in years; too bad most international analysts are easily distracted
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#2 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
May 12, 2010 6:35 am CET
The sixty percent majority for referenda of importance is not a number I picked out of hat.
The referendum for proportional representation was done in British Columbia in two different elections.In both referenda the critical point was sixty percent(plus one vote) in order to be passed.
In the first one it was relatively close as only about two percent of needed votes was missing.
In the next one it was not even close as yes votes did not even get a majority.
So,I agree that it will not pass in UK,if it ever comes to that.Cooperation will be needed for government to be an effective factor in life.
Yet,UK is lucky.Most other countries(including Czech Republic) with a proportional representatin in elections have no stable governments and are easily distracted by internal parliamentary politics which cause ineffectiveness in the way they govern.
We did not see truly weak government in Czech Republic yet but watch for this coming election.We will be called Italy of Central Europe.(how many governments did Italy had since end of WWII?Answer is dozens and dozens.
#3 Posted by
jan fleur
May 11, 2010 6:19 pm CET
All parties co-operate in crisis (war, depression of markets etc) . The U.K. has to reposition itself post market crash, and also post Iraq. Does it do this with a closer alliance to Europe? Or maintain it's independence in areas of banking, defence and legal system (economic law, human rights). Many see proportional representation as modern and progressive, others favour traditional established government rule. A lot has changed since the first G.W Bush administration, and is still changing; the UK has close links with the USA. Defeating proportional representation is the surest way to keep considerable party power; it does not favour Labour to have the first past the post. I believe referendum is by simple majority, proportional representation has a good percentage of interest; I feel it would be defeated if held in context with the current situation. It may happen in 10 years time, I suspect the following 10 years will be Conservative, after that trade and defence will require change. Social conditions and a desire for a new approach to communication within communities will take time to evolve in the U.K. Overall there will be a functioning government, people will still have tea at 3pm, the Big Ben clock will turn and turn, and the British way of life will continue much as it has in the past 100years. At present there is a struggle for stability, I hope to improve my lot by making a better effort, and avoiding politics!
#4 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
May 11, 2010 4:26 pm CET
We are not really disagreeing,right?
As far as I can see it we are saying the same thing in different ways.
Now,how about if Cons and Laborites form a "big" coalition like Germany did in their previous incarnation?
It is still a possibility,however remote it may be.
#5 Posted by
jan fleur
May 11, 2010 3:35 pm CET
#6 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
May 11, 2010 2:43 pm CET
I suspect that UK referendum -if it comes to that-will be drawn with two thirds of majority in mind.That is very unlikely to happen in UK,would you not say so?
UK conservatives may offer such referenda to Libs and Libs may accept it as a first step toward their goal.
So,while Labor is trying to form coalition with Libs,realistic situation will most likely see Libs-Conservative government.
#7 Posted by
jan fleur
May 11, 2010 8:17 am CET
#8 Posted by
jan fleur
May 9, 2010 9:13 am CET
One thing the election here has done; is make people think about a better way of delivering government. The financial basis of UK institutions does not allow for proportional representation; and thus, regardless of what the people 'think', it will be resisted. The UK is in a period of defining its role in a changing world, it will stick to that which has ensured freedom within the U.K. and fosters relationships with like minded nations. The Lisbon Treaty has been a 'flimsy' transitional document that is holding together a loose Europe that lacks direction.
The Czech ratification was necessary to ensure its European orientation in what Mr Klaus calls the 'German Euro zone'. As long as Europe does not slip back to a 'nationalist paranoid zone' the prospects are brighter than its past history. Politics would do well to pay attention to basic humanism and ensure that mans inhumanity to man does not repeat its classic fault lines. If the E.U. has a mission, then humanity is that mission, which as Mr Havel pointed out will require more participation from others who are non-political. However, as you know, this is just my ramble before breakfast, have a good day Jiri.
#9 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
May 9, 2010 7:02 am CET
Jan,you can see how much damage there is done to different countries(on extreme side is Italy)by proportional representation.Many government are unable to forge ahead with any meaningful legislations and just turn and turn over leaving the nations in perpetual disinterest.Elections become just another expense for national budgets and infighting in the countries is almost as bad as if they fought external enemies.
In that context,the political systems of USA,UK and Canada are perhaps most relevant.
European systems are far too populists to count.
What I mean,I do not think only two or three parties have the right to govern but if any other party reaches some kind of treshold on its own,then it also should become relevant without artificial "equity" in politics.
#10 Posted by
jan fleur
May 8, 2010 5:02 pm CET
#11 Posted by
jan fleur
May 8, 2010 3:34 pm CET
#12 Posted by
Jiri Hubacek
May 8, 2010 2:09 pm CET
Bloated public "services" that the rest of the working people can't support for much longer,corruption and the sense of personal entitlement without individual effort to be responsible.
This is what will happen in Czech Republic(CSSD).This is what happened in UK,Greece,Spain.
Hungary had chosen wisely in their elections.UK is on the way with likely right,centre coalition.
Will Czechs follow in this necessary trend?
#13 Posted by
jan fleur
May 6, 2010 8:01 pm CET
Article 2 Lisbon Treaty.
It is with deep concern I draw attention to the above, who is looking after the rights of those living in the east of the country?

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#1 Posted by
jan fleur
May 12, 2010 8:36 am CET