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Calling Washington

An open letter to the Obama administration from leaders in Central and Eastern Europe


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#1 Posted by

need a job angry
Unregistered user
Aug 7, 2009 9:21 pm CET

we need good paying jobs, not jobs for the rich to exploit under privileged people.
worked in the auto industry for 10 years. now what do i do?

#2 Posted by

Jiri Hubacek
Unregistered user
Jul 30, 2009 5:20 am CET

Peter.
Yes,there is a point to my article.
In reply to your illogical and overt anti-americanism I brought up the little known fact about the politics involved in "pre and during"WWII situation.
While it is true that most people do not know the facts I wrote about(Watson Lake's staging airlift to USSR),you dismissed it straithforward because it did not suit your philosophy.
That is a standard response by any fanatical loony leftist.
Do me a favor and check the history.It would do you good.

Ian Dowie,

Yes I had some good pivo as you suspected.Unfortunatelly,it is not that cheap in Canada.
The same advice to you as to Peter.

Educate yourself!!!!

#3 Posted by

Peter Andrews
Jul 29, 2009 8:10 pm CET

m o: Evidence of what? Evidence that microchips were invented in the UK in 1952? That this invention brought down the Soviet Union? I would at least agree with you that European countries have probably carried out torture in the past. Unfortunately, whereas they have moved on over the past fifty years, the US has not.

If your English were a little better it might be easier to address whatever other "points" you are trying to make.

#4 Posted by

m o
Unregistered user
Jul 28, 2009 2:31 pm CET

as expected Peter. warp the world to your views. i didnt say invent, i said used. but when you cant pound the facts, pound the table. evidence is pretty overwhelming, logic dictates one questions them, but not deny.

#5 Posted by

Peter Andrews
Jul 27, 2009 5:05 pm CET

>>m o

It's difficult to find much to reply to in your rambling, rather bizarre rant. As far as I can tell, your "argument" is that the Soviet Union collapsed because the US invented the microchip. Since that invented in 1952 in the UK this seems unlikely. The rest of your "discussion" is so incoherent that it doesn't seem worth commenting on.

>>Jiri Hubacek

I am not sure that you even have a point. Apparently the Americans flew planes out of Canada in order to help the Soviet fight in Asia against the Nazis. Good luck with that one!

#6 Posted by

m o
Unregistered user
Jul 27, 2009 11:29 am CET

i have been tracking your comments, Peter Andrews, to see how far you will go to throw logic out the window. while you make weak, albeit valid points, you base your whole arguement on them. Fallacies, is the foundation of your debate. for one, it wasnt just a arms build up that brought down USSR, that was a minor part. it was america having the microchip, that allowed them to expand technologically, including military arms. this forced russia to base its economy on raw goods export mainly (and simple products) , while US maintained and expanded technological superiority. The US further undercut USSR by colluding with the saudies to keep the carrel of oil artificially low (probably the biggest factor), and thats how they bankrupt the USSR government financially and morally (cant provide services to the people). and if you want to compare military arms procurement to GDP under the years of reagan (who chose to stop detente and confront russian arms growth), it was completely linear and not exponential (therefore no growth), in the fact it was either the same ratio of GDP (while GDP was getting bigger or growing at the nominal 2-3%). Your arguements are not conducive to learning or growing, but rather based on hearsay and naivete. the world is more complex and grey than many of web commentators can fathom. As for the yalta agreement. America made it al the way to plisen, but pulled out in an agreement with the russians for berlin. the russians already mentioned that they will break the yalta agreement to 'free the people of facism and bring the light of the worker unions to them'. this was unacceptable to the rest of the allies because it broke the agreement. watch the history channel Mr. andrews, if you dont like to read. you're beginning to remind of conspiracy theorists, where historical information stopped back in the 70s. let me guess,the americans didnt land on the moon either? it was all a hoax? soundroom and all that?
as for europeans not doing everything america does? wow seriously, i would be glad to give you a 7th grade history book for you to read.lets start with the inaccuracies/smears. europe is like a child to an american mother. no matter how much u wan tto believe it, it would be even harder for eu to function, let alone survive, with american protection, cajoling, and mediation. Does europe torture? screw it, im not answering this question or any of the other ones in that paragraph. if u are that surethat eu doesnt do this stuff, than no amount of evidence i give, will prove otherwise. Dont let colonial india, belgium and africa, de boers, indochina, falkland war, switzerland (not technically eu) bankrolling north korea or practicularly every other dictatorship out there. France was in vietnam before america. Libya and Italy? Algiers and France? Iran and europe? Roma relations?
as for your next paragraph about america and wars. lets start this off. there have been only two period in all of human history with relative peace. peace doesnt not mean no conflict, it means nothing more than regional war. The first was called the Pax Romana (the roman peace under Augustus Caeser). The next is the Pax Americana (guess what this means). If you compare death, war, conflict, and all those other good indicators in human history; under america has it been the lowest. go search the numbers. the only you think it is more is because the world has become a much more wired, connected, and smaller place. If a person in the fijis breaks a nail, you will hear about it, and most likely believe america had something to do with it. There was an excellent piece on www.foreignpolicy.com on how there is this great incorrect belief amoung the world, that america plays the dominant role in their lives.
please mr. andrews read a history book. and one last thing, for all of America's faults, i would rather have an american hegemony, than a russian or chinese one.

#7 Posted by

Jiri Hubacek
Unregistered user
Jul 25, 2009 8:29 am CET

Goood boy Peter,

Jalta Conference split Europe as you said.
However,it was all Allied leaders(French,British,USA and USSR)as a Victors that made that decission.I ,and many others may not like it,but I think that the feeling in the Europe was that if they did not accept Stalin's demands(a blackmail)the Russian Army would not stop its fighting and would continue all the way to English Channel and perhaps even beyond.
For Stalin,few more millions of dead people would mean nothing.Perhaps West was not too sure that they can stop Stalin at all.
It was RealPolitics at its worst because it caused an extreme hardship in Central and Eastern Europe while Western Europe was left to lick its wounds and live in relative prosperity.

So,if there is any blame to be find,it lies with entire Western Europe and not just USA.

By the way,I would like you and your friends to come some day to a little town in Canadian Yukon named Watson Lake.There,in local airport you will find documented and photographed history of USA helping Allies in Europe and (and also USSR)to fight the Nazi Germany even before itself entering the war in Europe.There were tens of thousands of fighter(and)other planes flown(via Watson Lake)to a Russian bases in Asia to help in its fight against Nazis.
The similar assistance in food and other wares were provided to Allies in Europe and it all despite USA's constitution that provided neutrality.
I guess that reality of the war eventually amended this constitution so USA was able to enter the actual fighting too.

If this you call a USA propaganda,so be it,however I feel that your version of history interpretation is not very conductive to a fair assesment.

#8 Posted by

h bartos hank
Unregistered user
Jul 24, 2009 5:30 pm CET

If Europeans who have joined NATO would have been in a aggression situation and waiting for help from USA it would be a long wait.
Remember ww2 and POLAND .

#9 Posted by

Bill Rogers
Unregistered user
Jul 24, 2009 11:30 am CET

Sadly, eastern europe has become a pawn of internal US politics. The Republicans pushed most strongly for your freedom and benefited politically from your success. Your success was effectively bad for the democrats. The democrats preferred some kind of "understanding" with the Russians. They still seek that and generally have this policy with most of what are considered the US's rivals/enemies.

Your success is an embarrassment to people with that world view. Where as successes in democrat policy are embarrassments to the Republicans. It is a deep ideological struggle that touches many different issues. Ultimately your support is not consider fashionable or valuable by the faction in power because they can't draw much strength from it. Every time you say you love the US it actually helps the republicans more then the democrats so at the very least they will avoid you.

As paradoxical as it might sound the best way to curry favor with the power in washington these days might be to shill for whatever issue the democrats want. The unfortunate side effect of that is that the republicans will be less likely to value you in the future. It's crass and unfair but that's the political reality in the US. Both sides are struggling for significance and survival. Neither side can tolerate too many embarrassments before it loses power as a result. Iraq and Afghanistan along with corruption in congress killed the Republican government. The Democrats are making so many mistakes that it's likely to swing back at least to an even split soon unless they finally do something right.

In any case, the best thing you can do is look out for yourselves. Do what you need to do to stay free and safe. In the end we all have to be able to stand alone sometimes. Harden yourselves... become formidable.

#10 Posted by

ian dowie
Unregistered user
Jul 23, 2009 11:22 pm CET

The popular current fashion of giving money to restore and support Church and community activities by the 'rich and influentia'l in Russia has more than charity in its merits. The 'market place' to sell oil and gas; Ukraine, Moldova, and transit to the E.U. is highly saught in Moscow; its the 'methadoligy' of securing gas staions and consumers of household and economic gas that causes concern. The aspirations to E.U. membership should not be seen in Moscow as an attempt to block asset aquisition for profits for Russian buisness. Its worrying to think that 'interfering' in elections in Moldova; Ukraine, is the best way to ensure assets, such as MOL in Hungary can be aquired as opposed to trusting in international markets. I hope that Russia thaws and warms to having 'friends with trust. Mr Obama in offering 'real responsibilty' re Iran has been bold and 'decent'. Time will tell; as for China; just to big for my humble brain.

#11 Posted by

Peter Andrews
Jul 23, 2009 6:20 pm CET

>>important your support for our freedom and independence was during the dark Cold War years.

That's a joke! The US and the USSR carved up Europe between them. At no point did the US intervene, help or support anyone in Eastern Europe. The best that can be said is that the US tried to bankrupt the USSR and itself by leading a huge and totally pointless arms build-up.

However, there are much more fundamental reasons why Europe should distance itself from the US. European countries, for the most part, do not use torture; do not arm and fund terrorists; do not attempt to topple democracies and install dictatorships; and do not sell weapons of mass destruction to unstable dictators. The US does all of these things and has done so consistently throughout much of its history. The US may not have quite as much blood on its hands as the USSR, but unlike the latter it still exists and is a major threat to world peace.

The Prague Post has recently become a platform for a nauseating stream pro-US propaganda. Perhaps that is why so few people take it seriously and even fewer people bother to buy it.
 
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