Poland will deploy U.S. missiles

Poland is right to help the US by providing estate for their missile program.
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Jiri' I read your comments on 'Foriegn Legion' and your relationship with the C.R. With elections due it probably is better for the 'Foriegn 'Legion' to not interfere in matters which realy they have no buisness in. I wish you well in your debate; I realise it's nothing to do with me and thank you for that.

"Their political system is virtually same like during USSR "glory" times."

Exactly. No unemployment, little crime, salaries paid on time, nobody going hungry...

Karlel burles)- appologies for steriotype crap on my part.

"Jiri, I will be interested on your take on the STRATFOR article."

Karel,I read this article and it is interesting although I do not necessarily agree with it hundred percent.There is enough truth in it,though,that I am sure USA government took a notice of it(together with its own intelligence gathering).Perhaps it is a reason why Poland has a Patriot missiles now.
One thing is sure though.Belarus never really wanted to be independent from Russia or at least its ruling class.Their political system is virtually same like during USSR "glory" times.

" A dictionary was only necessary here and there, but I still don't know what "obcich" means. Is it something to do with civilians?"

Karel,just to confuse you bit more."Obec" means community or village,"Obce" means plural of "Obec" and "Obcich" means belonging to or happening in(ve or na)villages.
It is a little bit like in latin grammar.I guess it would be "trochu" confusing for person who does not speak it since childhood.I suppose that nuances of language(any language)could be quite specific and that is the reason why poetry-for example-is difficult to translate from one language to other.The same goes for jokes.Both poetry and jokes will lose some of the meaning while being translated from one language to another.
What the heck, even in English speaking world there are huge differences about the meaning of various words and phrases,how they are spelled and how to use them.

Yer oh so yesterday, anon!

And it's sheila, not shiela, and strewth, not struth, which in any case, only the elderly use these days, and nobody's called Bruce anymore. And Fosters? Naa, too unsophisticated for us hillbillies.

Don't know where I can get me some whale meat do ya cobber? Oim so 'ungry I could eat the crutch outova rag doll!

Australian English)- 'Shiela; fosters; struth; shiela; fosters; struth; ya'll right bruce?'

"Jiri, I will be interested on your take on the STRATFOR article."

I will get to it tomorrow Karel.Its time for me "jit spat."

By the way,the term "obcich" relates to communities or villages.

Jiri, I will be interested on your take on the STRATFOR article.

Jiri, you sure made me work on your Czech article concerning the Polish signs in Cesky Tesin. I had to read it through slowly three times. A dictionary was only necessary here and there, but I still don't know what "obcich" means. Is it something to do with civilians?

I hadn't known that Poles in the CR had such rights, because nobody here, save Japanese tourists to Queensland, where some areas have bilingual street signs and shop sign, does.

Vandalism it is, but it is not just vandalism, rather an expression of extreme nationalism through vandalism, and is as old as the hills.

In relation to this article ALL readers, the author of this article included, if he or she hasn't already done so, might take the trouble to read the article, for which I have provided the link below, on the STRATFOR website. STRATFOR is not a 'loony' website. Its intelligence findings have often been cited in the Australian media.

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100125_ukraines_election_and_russian_resurgence

"Thank you for this article. I am of Bohemian heritage, and greatly admire the Czech Republic courage and strength."

Thank you Lillian.Most of the "Foreign Legion" in Prague will do anything to put down Czech Republic.
Sometimes I wonder why they are living,working or studying here.

"Klaus jednal v Ostravě s polskou menšinou. Řešil i dvojjazyčné tabule
1. února 2010 22:45
OSTRAVA - Představitelé polské menšiny v Moravskoslezském kraji chtějí změnu zákona o obcích. Norma totiž řeší i zřizování výborů pro národnostní menšiny, které se v obcích zabývají polskými záležitostmi.
Zástupci menšiny ale tvrdí, že současná verze je neprůhledná a dává prostor k manipulaci při volbě jednotlivých členů výborů. Někde jsou pak výbory nefunkční, řekl předseda Kongresu Poláků v České republice Józef Szymeczek, který dnes na toto téma v Ostravě jednal s prezidentem Václavem Klausem.

Szymeczek věří, že menšině Klaus může s legislativními změnami pomoci. "Jde nám o to, aby byl zákon o obcích víc průhledný. A záležitosti kolem výboru jednodušší," řekl předseda. Podle zákona vznikají výbory v obcích, kde žije víc než deset procent Poláků. Szymeczek ale tvrdí, že v některých obcích při volbě členů dochází k manipulaci a nekorektnímu jednání. "Tyto výbory jsou pak zablokované, nefunkční a nepodporují polskou věc," řekl předseda kongresu.

"Ničení polských tabulí je vandalství, ne akt nacionalismu"
Klaus po jednání se zástupci s polskou menšinou řekl, že podle něj jsou česko-polské vztahy na dobré úrovni. Připustila ale, že se občas mohou objevit problémy. "Myslím, že se to musí řešit na lokální úrovni. Prvním místem je výbor pro národnostní menšiny kraje, tady to je místo, kde se mají setkávat," míní Klaus. Podle něj je zbytečné zakládat nové organizace, které by problematiku duplicitně řešily.

Zástupci menšiny se na jednání dotkli i problému ničení polských nápisů z dvojjazyčných tabulí. V tomto směru se obě strany shodly na tom, že spíš než o akt nacionalismu jde o vandalství. Ani Szymeczek se nebojí, že by za ničením polských nápisů bylo zhoršení česko-polských vztahů. "Shodli jsme se na tom, že to jsou excesy, které snad rychle pominou. Říkali jsme panu prezidentovi, že by to chtělo větší osvětu pro většinovou společnost," řekl.

Problémy má hlavně Český Těšín
Problémy s útoky vandalů má například Český Těšín na Karvinsku. Některé dvojjazyčné tabule s polskými nápisy z ulic města zcela zmizely, desítky dalších byly poškozeny. Město obnova nápisů stojí tisíce korun. Problémem se už zabýval i polský prezident Lech Kaczyński. "Poláci mají právo na ochranu svého jazyka, právo, které Polsko dodržuje vůči menšinám žijícím na polském území," řekl při nedávné návštěvě České republiky.

Od srpna 2008 do konce loňského roku bylo v Českém Těšíně odcizeno pět uličních tabulek s polským textem, sprejem jich bylo poškozeno dalších několik desítek. "Jde o akt vandalství, poškozování cizí věci. Mrzí mne, že dnes, když se otevřely hranice a žijeme společně v Evropské unii, někteří lidé takto vyjadřují svůj postoj," uvedl starosta Českého Těšína Vít Slováček (KDU-ČSL). Podle něj se ve městě k polské národnosti hlásí 16,1 procenta občanů, v Českém Těšíně žije asi 25 500 obyvatel.


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Karel,read this,

It will show you that there are always some extremists regarding different nations.

Jezis Maria, Jiri! I can't work out whether, in general, you do not read all of what I say, or whether you subconsciously block some of it out, or, heaven forbid, whether you are being deliberately provocative.

(a) "In every nation are some that would say "silly" things about other nations.I know of few Czechs(and Canadians and English and French and Germans and Americans,etc.)who consider Poles a hillbillies and promote intolerance even in so called Polish jokes."

I have stood up for Poles many times, even in these pages, some time ago, in relation to comments made to me in Australia about Polish workers in UK.

I speak from experience with Poles beginning with my years in primary school where there were quite a few children of Polish and Ukrainian parents, along with the odd German, Latvian and Czech - me.

In general, when talking about Poles or Poland, I do not see them in a negative way, though their language could do with some improvement! A good, strong and high fence makes good neighbours, Jiri.


(b) "You yourself are painting ALL Germans -even in today's world as Nazi symphatizers.Surely there still are some but by large the most of them are now quite decent people basically just minding their own business-except in the sense that they(like all the nations)consider their country the best to live in and acting in their own interest."

You're coming across as naive, Jiri.

Btw, I do not hate Germans, but I do hold deep reservations about them (you'll have to excuse me for this, but it's not my fault as I was hearing from a tender, young age from Czech people out here, ze nemec je vzditsky za prve nemec, a pak je herr schmidt - they were the words. I wonder why these Czechs held these sentiments, Jiri? Any ideas? You are obviously grew up free of this sort of nonsense.). Why, I have even stood up for them on occasion out here when Brits or just plain Aussies have made scurrilous, inaccurate remarks about them!

Btw, how is Canada's Ernst Zundel going? Decent chap, basically.

Thank you for this article. I am of Bohemian heritage, and greatly admire the Czech Republic courage and strength.

"I think the most insulting words in relation to Czechs from a Polish source I have ever come across appeared in some newspaper article in about 1980, where it was stated that the Poles consider us as Germans who speak Czech! What do you think of that!"

Surely you do not want to paint the whole nation by the color of few extremists,do you?

In every nation are some that would say "silly" things about other nations.I know of few Czechs(and Canadians and English and French and Germans and Americans,etc.)who consider Poles a hillbillies and promote intolerance even in so called Polish jokes.
Would you then consider all those nations intolerant because of few?
You yourself are painting ALL Germans -even in today's world as Nazi symphatizers.Surely there still are some but by large the most of them are now quite decent people basically just minding their own business-except in the sense that they(like all the nations)consider their country the best to live in and acting in their own interest.
Any leader of any country when expressing in speech acceptance of his/her leadership will-inevitably use the phrase:This great nation of ours.(or something very similar,)so this sentiment is pretty well a par for any nation.

Regarding Poles, Jiri, I wouldn't quite call it animus, but I do harbour some doubts about Poles in general, yes. My impression is that they aren't all necessarily fond of Czechs and a little bit of that bonhomie occasioned by being 'brother' Slavs goes a long way with them, and I have met, or had dealings with quite a few Poles or children of Poles over the decades. Same actually goes for Russians who don't really consider us 'proper' Slavs, Ukrainians, etc.

My grandparents lived near the Polish border in Moravia after WWI and they used to tell stories of Poles throwing rocks at the Czechs. Grandfather, also Karel, was actually called back into the Army after demobilisation to deal with the hostile situation on the northern border with Poland in 1920.

But, despite hearing many times from various Czech sources ze Polaci nas nemaj radi I am always happy to start off with them on the right foot rather than the wrong foot.

I think the most insulting words in relation to Czechs from a Polish source I have ever come across appeared in some newspaper article in about 1980, where it was stated that the Poles consider us as Germans who speak Czech! What do you think of that!

Karel,I noticed from your past(and this) comments that you have an animus toward Poland.
I would like to know why.

More than any other neighbors of our land it was far more beneficial or at least less malevolent that any other neighbor to us.We even had chosen Polish king to rule us in our distant past.
Is there any motif for it in you?

Where once it was a Soviet puppet, Poland is now an American puppet. A puppet is a puppet. Poland wouldn't have the wherewithal to build and pay for these missiles. It would be different if it did.

The realities of Obama led government and people forgetting the need of counterballancing of Russians.

I thought the west was trying to build bridges with Russia but all NATO and the USA does is to try and agrravate the situation. Russia has been more than helpfull to NATO in Afghanistan. Would the USA like some Russian missles on there doorstep I doubt it as was proved in the Cuban missle crises. You the USA do not need these missles there nor the bases you are building in Bulgaria unless it is for world domination. I love America but I do not like its foreign policies and the west should stop and think before it takes these decisions.